learn more Est. Is there any reason NOT to go this way from the start? This does come with the DeWalt Router. Collet 1/8 inch for CNC Router X-CARVE Shapeoko DWP611 DCW600 Porter Cable. If noise is a problem, build an enclosure. Since then the Carbide Compact Router (essentially a rebadged Makita) has become the router option for Carbide 3D machines. The Shapeoko is made of tough aluminum extrusion and operated by NEMA 23 stepper motors to accurately create exactly what you design every time, in any material. Shapeoko XXL with spindle motor vs Dewalt router I'm looking at getting a Shapeoko XXL soon and was considering getting the version with a Dewalt router, BUT I saw that I could get a water cooled spindle motor for not significantly more (relatively speaking), I was wondering if … According to some reports, Dewalt will accept 6mm as well as 1/4" bits. Note that EVERYTHING you need is in the kit: a DeWalt router, motors, electronics, even software for the controller. I like the idea of more power, better control and potentially much quieter. A plasma cutter puts out quite a bit of EMI, and this may require a complete overhauling, if not re-design or replacement of the electronics. The kit includes everything you need to get started except the Dewalt trim router. In Stock: Jan 8th. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for enthusiasts of hobbyist CNC machines like the Shapeoko, X-Carve, 6040, etc, Press J to jump to the feed. level 1. Plusieurs matériaux sont compatibles, notamment le plastique, le bois, et les métaux doux. The Elaire Corporation makes 3/8" and 1/8" precision collets for both routers, which makes using micro end mills much easier. Rotary spindles are the most frequent tool choices, but there are a number of other options. here’s my post about it on the carbide 3D forum. The Dewalt DWP611 and the Makita RT0701 were the initial choices for spindles for the Shapeoko 3 (they also work well on suitably upgraded Shapeoko 1/2s). Similar to a rotary spindle is a high-speed engraving tool: http://engraving.majosoft.com/html/anatomy_of_an_engraving_cutter.htm, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVMXAuP_em0, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-SYjPlecMs, https://www.jpplus.com/engravers-bible/diamond-drag-engraving, http://community.carbide3d.com/t/engraving-a-picture-in-granite/11197, https://community.carbide3d.com/t/first-time-with-diamond-drag-bit/7616/6, Contrast with https://youtu.be/C7BEgEQqorQ [16], https://www.reddit.com/r/CNC/comments/6f84hz/diy_drag_bit_holder_for_hobby_machines/. The Makita edges out the Dewalt for the lower RPM range. http://www.tricocorp.com/product/md-1200-micro-drop/ [12], http://www.shapeoko.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6077, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrUDVBHc9Xo https://www.reddit.com/r/shapeoko/comments/40pmwc/shapeoko_3_second_metal_project_vise/cywn5bh, https://hackaday.io/project/12308-xatc-extreme-simple-automatic-tool-changer [13], http://www.midwestrapidtool.com/AutomaticToolChanger.htm, http://www.cnccat.gr/?lang=en --- commercial option for Kress spindles --- c.f., http://www.cnccat.gr/index.php?id=1&catid=89&lang=en. Note that trim routers may be upgraded w/ better collets (Carbide 3D has begun bundling precision collet set). We get a lot of questions about what router to use with the Shapeoko, the DeWalt DWP611 or the Makita RT0701C. Cutting dimensions are 16x33x3inches. X-Carve can be customized if you’re an experienced CNC user with a variety of add-ons, whereas the Shapeoko comes as one unit with no add-ons X-Carve comes with a dust collector, whereas Shapeoko is a lot cheaper X-Carve is a cloud-based software, whereas Shapeoko is a software that can be installed onto your PC or Mac La version 1000 mm offre un généreux espace de travail de 750 x 750 x 65 mm. I'm not an experts but every part that I kner about personally was of good quality (for instance, the DeWalt router). Carbide 3D Shapeoko Z-Plus XL CNC Router Kit with DeWalt Router Starter Bundle. learn more Est. 2x Collet 1/8" for CNC Router Xcarve Shapeoko Dewalt DWP611 DCW600 Porter Cable. Le Kit CNC Robuste Carbide3D Shapeoko Standard est conçu pour être suffisamment abordable pour tout atelier et suffisamment puissant pour réaliser un véritable travail. The short answer is the Shapeoko has a killer price performance ratio–it offers big value for the money. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. All three work well on Shapeoko. Ce router CNC est disponible en deux versions, 500 mm ou 1000 mm. Push the router down, and pull up on power cord until it reaches the top left standoff of the Z-axis limit switch plate. Sweepy 65 is included with all new Shapeoko machines. The CCR is essentially a rebadged Makita --- https://carbide3d.com/blog/2019/the-carbide-compact-router/. Overall dimensions are 45” Width x 41” Length. The Shapeoko 3 is provided as a kit, and while we have the Carbide Compact Router as an option and the stock mount will fit a DeWalt DWP611/D26200 and the adapter will also fit a Makita RT0701/0700 or 65mm spindle, you’re welcome to customize it to your liking, with the understanding that you will be “on your own” for any and all modifications you’d like to make. The Shapeoko milling machines are designed by Carbide 3D to be affordable enough for any shop and powerful enough to do real work. Discussion of accuracy: https://www.reddit.com/r/CNC/comments/8qeq20/can_a_plasma_cnc_cut_to_this_accuracy/, Successful upgrade noting the need of shielding: https://forum.shapeoko.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=9647&p=70528#p70528, Thingiverse: Shapeoko 3 spindle mount for DeWalt DWE6421 sander [28], https://www.coloradocustoms3d.com/listing/728275930/capability-expansion-pack-for-the, Differences between the Makita and Carbide Compact Router, https://www.youmagine.com/designs/shapeoko3-plotter-pen, https://carbide3d.com/blog/2019/the-carbide-compact-router/, http://www.tricocorp.com/product/md-1200-micro-drop/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrUDVBHc9Xo, https://www.reddit.com/r/shapeoko/comments/40pmwc/shapeoko_3_second_metal_project_vise/cywn5bh, https://hackaday.io/project/12308-xatc-extreme-simple-automatic-tool-changer, http://www.cnccat.gr/index.php?id=1&catid=89&lang=en, http://www.shapeoko.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=5061#p36904, http://www.shapeoko.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=5381, http://www.2linc.com/spring_loaded_drag_engraving.htm, http://benchtopprecision.com/diamond-drag-engraving-tool/, https://engravingbit.com/small%20drag%20engraving%20tool.html, http://www.widgetworksunlimited.com/CNC_Diamond_Drag_Engraving_Bit_p/cnc-dmnd_engrv-250.htm, https://www.ebay.com/itm/Drag-knife-for-CNC-router-Shopbot-Shapeoko-X-Carve-New-Design-Made-in-USA-/392571472084, https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3994417, https://wikifactory.com/@itay/3d-printed-drag-knife, http://foro.cnccontrolapp.com/index.php?topic=977.0, http://community.carbide3d.com/t/10-diy-drag-knife/3202, Silhouette craft cutter: GPGL Reference, Courtesy of Graphtec, https://grabcad.com/library/drag-knife-cnc, http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/tools-procedures/416470-cnc-drag-knife.html, http://community.carbide3d.com/t/vinyl-cutter-attachment-with-standard-vinyl-drag-knife/11198, Thingiverse: Remix Drag knife for CNC - shapeoko by Rogoz, holder for Roland vinyl cutting knife on Thingiverse, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YqvgA1P5hWg, https://www.cncroutershop.com/us_en/knife-blades/tangential-knives/45-blade-holder.html, https://apps.autodesk.com/FUSION/en/Detail/Index?id=3603732473616813300&os=Win64&appLang=en, Excel spreadsheets to add corner overcuts, Custom cardboard box generator spreadsheets, https://www.reddit.com/r/hobbycnc/comments/jhhbnb/experiments_with_drag_knife_cutters_and_coroplast/, https://robocutters.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=Drag_Knife, http://www.widgetworksunlimited.com/CNC_Sign_Vinyl_Drag_Knife_Bit_p/cnc-vinyl_knife.htm, http://www.toolstoday.com/p-6009-in-groove-cnc-insert-engraving-tool-body-replacement-solid-carbide-insert-knives.aspx, http://www.cnczone.com/forums/coding/71521-cnc.html, MPCNC 2826 Brushless RC Motor Foam Cutter, http://www.mytoolstore.com.au/products/Wood-burning-Pen-for-CNC-Machines.html, First test of my ShapeOko pick and place prototype, Pick and Place second test - feeder advance, http://www.shapeoko.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2600, http://www.shapeoko.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=7232&p=61187#p61187, https://www.reddit.com/r/CNC/comments/8qeq20/can_a_plasma_cnc_cut_to_this_accuracy/, https://forum.shapeoko.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=9647&p=70528#p70528, Thingiverse: Shapeoko 3 spindle mount for DeWalt DWE6421 sander, https://wiki.shapeoko.com/index.php?title=Spindle_Overview&oldid=19198, Dewalt has finer-grained speed control, Makita lower and higher range of possible speeds (the lower speeds are especially useful on plastics and wood), Dewalt has a longer collet clamping area and collet with a greater number of slots which affords multiple precision collet options (standard ones as well as the ER-style collets from Precise Bits), Makita has a single source for a large variety of sizes of precision collets (the Carbide 3D 1/8" and 1/4" precision collets for the Carbide Compact Router will fit) and an option for a 3/8" collet (larger than the 5/16" or 8mm the DeWalt collets top out at), Dewalt has a plastic button on the Body, which limits Z plane positioning inside the mount, Makita has a more Robust Tool changing mechanism, with a cylinder push lock below the shaft, which will allow more mounting options in the Z plane, Dewalt has a longer body and can be mounted so as to reach lower, Makita brush life longer and replacements less expensive and easier to change, CCR has specific detents in-between the numeric speed settings, the Makita has a continuous dial, Makita has accessories intended for hand use which are not included with the CCR (but would fit it). The typical choice for a tool (the industry term for this is spindle) is a trim router (a Dewalt DWP611 or Makita RT0701 (or equivalent 220V version) is suggested). Clay: https://www.instagram.com/p/BiDOxWJHLl5/. $50.00 + $6.49 shipping . I went with a 2.2kw liquid cooled spindle from the start with my xxl. Some are merely replacements for the standard collets in different sizes, while at least one manufacturer offers specialized systems which allow one to use ER style collets. We’ve been meaning to do a deatiled writeup for a while but it looks like we can cross it off the todo list. https://smile.amazon.com/MYSWEETY-Cooled-Spindle-Converter-Collet/dp/B01N1EJEQ1. I knew people really love their Shapeokos! Collets and Nuts. You also want the lower RPM for cutting metals like aluminum. $50.00 + $5.99 shipping . Everything does run properly. Comes with the Dewalt router mounted. if one buys a matching nut for each collet) and afford a greater clamping tolerance (e.g., a 1/4" ER-style collet can hold a 6mm endmill[11]). $24.99 + $5.50 shipping . Please Note: The Shapeoko does not include a trim router this needs to be purchased separately, Carbide 3D recommend either the DeWalt DWP-611 or the Makita RT0701C. I used 16 AWG speaker wire to power my spindle and i ran the wire through the drag chain. The Z-Plus Shapeoko from Carbide 3D is a build-it-yourself CNC Router that allows you to create 3D objects from wood, plastic, and aluminum. My experience is from a $200-$300 range 1.5kw 110v water cooled spindle from eBay. I run my spindle cable from the roof of my enclosure with dust collection, Edit: didn’t see the link, you get most of the stuff I listed. Winston Moy, a long-time Shapeoko MVP, just posted a great Youtube that shows the differences and similarities. You do have to deal with tubing and a pump for the liquid cooled spindle but I mounted a small pc pump and pc radiator+fan to the gantry and ran those wires through the drag chain also. Carbide 3D Shapeoko XXL CNC Router Kit DeWalt 611 Professional Bundle. The cutting area is pushed further in the Shapeoko XL and XXL variants. $50.00 + $6.49 shipping . Mounting a laser for engraving and cutting is a popular upgrade. The Compact Router includes a 12 foot power cord to make wiring easier for everything from our Shapeoko 3 to the larger Shapeoko XXL. 2x Collet 4mm for CNC Router Xcarve Shapeoko DWP611 DCW600 / Porter Cable. Le Shapeoko fonctionne avec une gamme de matériaux : le bois, le plastique et l'aluminium ne posent aucun problème. The spindles are an added complication and potentially a source of additional EMI which may cause disconnects. Both Sweepy 65 and 69 feature a 36mm (D) dust port suitable for a Festool, Fein, or similar shop vacuum and the 80mm version has a 2.25" (OD) port. The touch probe does have a little hole on the top, but does not hinder its use. 3 pc Collet 4 6 8mm for CNC Router Xcarve Dewalt DWP611 DCW600 Porter Cable 450. Shapeoko 3 Standard, XL and XXL are in stock! $79.99 + $8.99 shipping . The Shapeoko uses our Carbide Compact Router or you can provide your own DeWalt DWP-611 or Makita RT0701C as a spindle. Back to home page Return to top. The Compact Router includes a 12 foot power cord to make wiring easier for everything from our Shapeoko 3 to the larger Shapeoko XXL. This allows for the dust shoe to have a slimmer profile and not protrude too far beyond the front of the spindle. DEWALT routers are available up to 3 horsepower and up to 15 Amp variable speed motors. The Shapeoko is made of tough aluminum extrusion and operated by NEMA 23 stepper motors to accurately create exactly what you design every time, in … Mounting a pen is something of a rite of passage. We purchased in January 2020 from MatterHackers. The Shapeoko is made in the US and comes with a 12 month warranty The electronics work on 110V or 220v The kit includes everything you need to get started except the Dewalt trim router. Location in Tonbridge/Tunbridge Wells area. I haven’t even finished assembly yet, so I haven’t cut with it yet, but I’m just wondering what your thoughts are on this router compared to the Makita RT0701 or the DeWalt DW611. The Carbide3D Compact Router for Shapeoko is trim router packaged for use with CNC machines. Even an acrylic front (so you can watch it) does a great job of dampening the sound. Since then the Carbide Compact Router (essentially a rebadged Makita) has become the router option for Carbide 3D machines. Comes with power and … Les deux versions sont équipées d’une tête-outil DeWalt 611, offrant une haute puissance et précision. Get the professional power you need with DEWALT wood routers. Shapeoko 3 Standard and XL in backorder. This product ships by default with an IEC to US plug power cable, we'd suggest using the item with a standard IEC to UK plug power cable (the same cable used with most computers and monitors). $2,345.00. learn more Est. MDF waste board has some pen marks from outlining objects otherwise the machine itself is in great shape. I never actually used a trim router as a spindle before that though so I can’t give a comparison. The common Huanyang Chinese VFD is a little bit of work researching how to set up but works well. Your vac is going to be way louder anyway (put that in an enclosure too). The Dewalt DWP611 and the Makita RT0701 were the initial choices for spindles for the Shapeoko 3 (they also work well on suitably upgraded Shapeoko 1/2s). Selling a very good condition, barely used Shapeoko 3XL CNC Router. [10] These are more convenient and easier to change (esp. The Shapeoko milling machines are designed by Carbide 3D to be affordable enough for any shop and powerful enough to do real work. Brand new shapoko router (Shapeoko CNC Router Kit 69mm XL, DeWalt 900W 1/4" Compact Fixed Based Trim Router 240V - D26200-GB/DWP611, Shapeoko BitZero & #202 .25" Ball Cutter (Qty 2)) All brand new and still in packaging.. Collection prefered. $2,150.00. Collet 8mm for CNC Router Xcarve Dewalt DWP611 DCW600 / Porter Cable 450 T1 . The loudest part is cutting but I enjoy not having to wear hearing protection when setting up. Carbide 3D Shapeoko Z-Plus XL CNC Router Kit with DeWalt Router Professional Bundle . The Compact Router power cable will be routed to the right side of the Shapeoko XXL (away from the Controller Box). While it does have a number of safety implications, it affords options which aren't feasible otherwise. Cutting area is 32” x 32” . Bottom line, I think both are comparable in major ways: price, noise, warranty, replaceable points when they wear out, torque, size, etc. I just bought a Shapeoko 3 XXL and it came with the Carbide 3d router. I’m very happy that I did. Note: The Compact Router is only available in 120V with a standard US plug. Laser Mount For DeWalt 611 & Carbide Router - Shapeoko Carbide 3d. Note: The Compact Router is only available in 120V with a standard US plug. Routers are crazy loud though and my spindle barely makes a sound. http://www.shapeoko.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6048&p=52138#p52138, https://www.youmagine.com/designs/shapeoko3-plotter-pen [1], http://www.shapeoko.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7977&p=63008. Ups -Much quieter than a router(most important for myself), Downs -Heavier, I’m not sure how rigid the Shapeoko is or how rigid you can make it, Items to buy on top of spindle VFD -Coolant I used automotive but I have friends who use computer coolant but it’s more money, -Pump Cheapest harbor freight is about $6, -Larger drag chain Didn’t think of this and have my coolant lines zip tied. The wires to the probe are taped. MDF does a fine job of sound dampening. Carbide 3D Shapeoko Z-Plus XXL CNC Router Kit with Carbide Compact Router Professional Bundle. Other aspects of the routers are substantively the same, notably the electronics and their speed control, and bearings, brushes, collets, and collet nuts are interchangeable betwixt the twain. (For the legal sticklers out there, the Shapeoko and Compact Router shown in … http://hackaday.com/2013/01/11/printing-images-with-a-wood-burning-cnc-machine/, This link suggests it should be spring-loaded: http://www.mytoolstore.com.au/products/Wood-burning-Pen-for-CNC-Machines.html, Discussion: http://www.shapeoko.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2600, Further discussion and note that height control is needed: http://www.shapeoko.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=7232&p=61187#p61187, http://openplas.com/pages/shapeokoplas [27]--- shop is closed. Carbide3D / Shapeoko (Carbide3D is the company and Shapeoko is their product) absolutely rocked the Customer Satisfaction scores for two years running in our CNC Router Survey. Let’s look at some advantages of Shapeoko 3 that make it one of the best CNC router machine kits on CNC machining market.. A large cutting area – Shapeoko 3 provides users with a massive cutting area making 3D designing possible (large CNC router). In Stock: Jan 8th. $24.99 + $5.25 shipping . The same 69mm mount which fits the DeWalt is used however, and the same 65mm adapter is provided which fits the Carbide Compact Router/Makita RT0701 and other similar trim routers (see list on the RT0701 page), so one has the widest possible options for spindles. If I get the Shapeoko with the Dewalt router, does it come with the normal router base too or just the motor part? Discussion of path needed for compensation: http://www.cnczone.com/forums/coding/71521-cnc.html c.f., Drag_Knife_Support on the CAM page. Aug 27, 2018 - The belted Z-Axis Shapeoko from Carbide 3D is a build-it-yourself CNC Router that allows you to create 3D objects from wood, plastic, and aluminum. $2,162.25. I also like that I don’t need to deal with a router power cable. RPM range is 12,000 - 30,000. The standard collet that ships with this router is 1/4" (6.35mm). Push the X/Z Carriage (with Compact Router installed) all the way to the right (away from the Controller Box). Note that the assembly manual is a download from www bobscnc com. Little bit of soldering. Description of use with Vectric software for Coroplast: This page was last modified on 25 October 2020, at 07:49. 2x Collet 8mm for CNC Router Xcarve Shapeoko DWP611 DCW600 / Porter … Water cooled spindle! 2x Collet 1/8" for CNC Router Xcarve Shapeoko Dewalt DWP611 DCW600 Porter Cable. I'm looking at getting a Shapeoko XXL soon and was considering getting the version with a Dewalt router, BUT I saw that I could get a water cooled spindle motor for not significantly more (relatively speaking), I was wondering if that would be a better idea. … The rectangular duct is designed to wrap the Shapeoko 3's spindle block so that the vacuum hose can be attached as close as possible to the spindle. '' bits just the motor part side of the Z-axis limit switch plate a number of other.. 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